FitzChevalerie 111 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I really think tricksters need slip away. Really the only way they can hope to catch a mage. really helps and doesn't make them OP Thank ye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk 106 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Good luck convincing them, it's why I don't play tricksters anymore. :l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amor 625 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I've added a poll, once an appropriate amount of people have voted, I will consider what to do next. Please don't use alternative accounts to vote again. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I agree with Slip Away being added. Not really fair other classes have those "missing skills" but tricksters don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost 70 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Zephry, on 27 Jan 2014 - 5:59 PM, said:I agree with Slip Away being added.Not really fair other classes have those "missing skills" but tricksters don't.Slip away was never an official skill, it's a custom from Odin. So can't really be considered a missing skill. Slip away was a really buggy skill and I'd rather have Binding Blow fixed for reapers(if possible), but if not I'll take the next best thing at slip away. Edited January 28, 2014 by Ghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk 106 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The thing is when OBT was still around it was on their list to remove all Odin skills. The only things that were done was 1) Slip Away was removed only because Freddy said 'it's too OP' and couldn't give much more than that as a reason. 2) Recovering Blow and Eradicate now have the Cross Counter animation. So, if one was removed when we were told all would be removed then why didn't that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iViolence 2 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I agree with slip away being added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amor 625 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The thing is when OBT was still around it was on their list to remove all Odin skills. The only things that were done was 1) Slip Away was removed only because Freddy said 'it's too OP' and couldn't give much more than that as a reason. 2) Recovering Blow and Eradicate now have the Cross Counter animation. So, if one was removed when we were told all would be removed then why didn't that happen? Pretty sure they were all removed, I don't know what skills Fred editing because he never told me, but I don't think it was any of the lower level ones (<100). If we did miss any skills then please do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advent 38 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I don't see why not. o: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk 106 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Pretty sure they were all removed, I don't know what skills Fred editing because he never told me, but I don't think it was any of the lower level ones (<100). If we did miss any skills then please do tell. It was to my understanding that ALL Odin custom skills were included. Those are the following: Fighter - Recovering Blow and Eradicate Cleric - Break and Weaken Mage - Mind Tap, Spirit Tap, and Thunderbolt (Wizard) Archer - Pretty much every Nature buff. (Aim, Critical rate, Curse resistance, and Evasion) Although on the official server there is a buff for increased DEX. Which is split up here. Also, Annihilating Power, Immobilizing Shot, Gravity Field, and Spirit Shot. The five different entrap flowers for Rangers (Stun, Fear, Bind, Slash, Slow. Official had normal, blind, slow, and bleeding. All entrap flowers shared empowerments and cooldowns.) Trickster - Slip Away. The only thing removed? The only thing tricksters get as far as custom skills. Might have left some out but this is what I remembered at least. The only thing I recall Freddy 'editing' was those skill animation for the fighter skills and trying to change Binding Blow for reapers. Kisu and FitzChevalerie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amor 625 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Fighter - Recovering Blow and Eradicate are on official, so I won't assume it as a custom skill. Cleric - Break and Weaken are also on official. Mage - Mind Tap, Spirit Tap and Thunderbolt are on official. Archer - All Nature buffs are on official. I didn't check them all because you didn't give me specific names, but they had quite a few. There is a skill on official called Annihilating Shot, I assume it's the same as Annihilating Power. Immobilizing Shot is also on official, Gravity Field isn't on official, but I think it just hasn't been added in yet, I can remove it if necessary though archers will just be weakened. Spirit shot is also on official. Not sure about entrap but again, archers could use it as a buff, because they are already weak. Trickster - Slip Away is not on official. I checked their files for the skill, so maybe they haven't added it in game yet? Not sure, but it's on official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk 106 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Fighter skills, taken from a 105 gladiator. Mage skills, taken from a 100 wizard. Cleric skills, taken from a 110 holyknight. Archer skills, taken from a 115 ranger. Which reminds me, Holy Land and Summon Fairy aren't either. I checked their files for the skill, so maybe they haven't added it in game yet? Not sure, but it's on official. Thought I'd add to this as I think this is what your point is based upon. While I won't contest it because I haven't personally looked into the files myself for official, the fact is that the previously mentioned skills listed above have yet to make an appearance into the game in the however many years it's been around and probably never will due to balancing purposes (or so they'll tell you). The reason they're even called Odin skills is because it was one of the first private servers to introduce them in the game, hence why they're referred by that name. For the record I'm not trying to overthrow your point, rather address the fact that you don't see any of those skills in official thus they're considered custom anywhere but there. No I don't want them removed and I'm pretty sure neither does anyone else. My whole point was stressing the very same thing I've said before that this one skill was removed when I was under the impression they'd all be. Hopefully the landslide vote will be enough to consider it re-added to the game and to be honest I don't think it needs to be accessed until prestige like Dash and Blink are. Perhaps that could be the deciding factor in meeting in the middle on this between Freddy and those who opposed the action to begin with. :l Edited January 28, 2014 by Skunk Kisu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spader 38 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The only custom skill Odin added were: Summon Fairy Slip Away Gravity Field Retaliate Anything else you think is a custom skill is in official it's just not available for players to buy. Therefore, no player has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunk 106 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 And unless someone dug into the files to see that said skills even existed on official, they wouldn't know. Hence why people refer to them as custom. So it's not really a matter of 'what I think' it's more along the lines of 'what the community was brought to believe'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spader 38 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Alhough they may look "custom" but they are not. That is why they have not been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Some of those skills like Clerics Break and Mages Spirit/Mind Tap are "missing" skills that weren't included in NA/EU Fiesta but in Japanese Bright Kingdom(Fiesta) and the Korean version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Slip away was never an official skill, it's a custom from Odin. So can't really be considered a missing skill. Slip away was a really buggy skill and I'd rather have Binding Blow fixed for reapers(if possible), but if not I'll take the next best thing at slip away. Binding Blow is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 You guys are also missing Ring Shield for mages, not a custom Odin skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzChevalerie 111 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 So, will we get it ? o/ only way id make a 100+ trix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) So, will we get it ? o/ only way id make a 100+ trix It's at Nina. I recall of it working, having the player teleport to you and you getting stunned. It's not how it SUPPOSE to work but it's better than not having the skill at all. You'll either have to ask WhySoSerious(Only Reaper I seen on the server.) or level your trickster to 100 and find out. o: Scratch that, thought you were talking about Binding Blow. qq On the other hand, Slip Away is a skill you get at 49 I presume. Edited February 5, 2014 by Zephry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzChevalerie 111 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yes.. But I'm not making any trix if we can't have it. they weak and too kiteable without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephry 162 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yes.. But I'm not making any trix if we can't have it. they weak and too kiteable without They aren't weak at all! If you have good gear you can easily survive a Mage or Fighter. The only time I would have a problem with either one is if they recovered faster that what I usually put out(never had a problem with mages about that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amor 625 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I will add Slip Away in next patch. FitzChevalerie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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